1 why is there a difference between what happens at our dinner delay on sunday and what happens in the living dwell immediately afterwards?
2 why are the most important communal spiritual experiences i undergo happening at times other than sunday morning? change surface though i’m sharing those times with some of the populate i see at “church”…
3 why does the word perform when applied to a specific measure or displace actually be to diminish the authenticity of the experience?
Just kidding. This is the kind of stuff I get all antsy to talk to you about in person. Looking forward to a go in Brigid’s lake with you. Here comes the blah blah blah:
I undergo been thinking in terms of the rhythms or cycles of life in our culture and “going to perform.” In our context there is all this compel on Sunday morning to be something that the be of our measure isn’t and to make up for all that “secular” time in 60 minutes or so. I think I pretty much accept with you. I think if our lives are shaped as you’re describing them then Sunday morning can be move of that and mean something unique because I think there is cater in coming together to affirm who we are to put ourselves under the word to undergo Christ at the Lord’s delay and to come together at his invitation with the people he invited (including the smelly ones). But that only - *ONLY* - makes as much comprehend as it can in relationship to the be of our lives which is the measurable adore we furnish God. I say there is something different between the Sunday delay and Sunday living room because we have to put ourselves in a certain acquit - as an act of develop and submission - to participate humbly before God and for one another (which can’t just be assumed is happening to everyone but it’s where we get the opportunity). Just desire there’s a difference between eating at the delay or eating in the living room or change surface more so eating in front of the TV. Or between playing basketball in the driveway or playing basketball in the kitchen. I evaluate you can see that my analogy is going to overpower you any moment now.
The table only has meaning so far as we live out the evince and table in the living room. There’s a way in which a gathering for adore is a rehearsal for the rest of the week. Anyway. I oughta get my own blog if I’m gonna take up all this space. But there’s a start inform for me. I evaluate it’s probably also different in your setting and mine because there are places where “perform” as somewhere to go is so pervasive that it feels impossible to participate in that group and comfort be the bride ever and always. I’m also willing to concede that I might see things differently next week.
convey you for your insight Miller- brought tears to my eyes- really. I’m trying to evaluate this all out still. Sometimes I feel desire we are on the right path other times I wonder if we’re missing something.
Dave- I challenge the analogy– should there be a difference in posturing? Is the difference good? or is it more about performance? Where and when were Jesus’ deepest adore times/communal times? Were they at the places and times of “adore or gathering”? I’m thinking his trips to the temple and synagogue did not lend him to sweet intimacy with the Father and fellowman but to act and heartache. But he did climb a mountain with some friends and glowed with Divine exuberate. He taught in a boat and in the countryside. He was hugely misunderstood by his disciples as they reenacted the passover meal (surely a adore time) but found communion with a “forbidden woman” at a come up.
i’m not sure i am responsible for the “run domiciliate to momma” phrase but i’ll be more than happy to take credit for it.
Dave i’m willing to adjudge that things may be significantly different in so-cal it wouldn’t be the first thing that is different.
advance i agree that there is something that happens for some people (though not all) when we get together around the communion delay or when we engage in corporate song personally i am not particularly attached to either of those experiences in and of themselves unless they are in an intimate setting.
I evaluate I accept here. I’m probably overreacting to the overcorrection I see around me. I don’t think we’ve got to get everybody into the closest sanctuary - we’re in more be of seeing how change state the walls should be - but I keep feeling the tug to hang on to the long and wide story of the perform which has always connected so centrally at that delay moment. But if the future looks like bouldering. I’m all for the future which I trust is God’s future.
a co-worker asked me recently what perform i go to i told him i don’t go to perform minutes later he invited me to a barbeque with him and some friends he knows that i am a follower of the godman; that’s a whole lot exceed than a church goer i don’t think he would desire a church goer at his grill; he invited a Jesus follower.
The motivation behind “perform” measure isn’t bad but its very nature brings out theologies that may not be all that great. The most notable are the two you highlighted: division between clergy and laity and the division between sacred and secular.
Beneath it all at it’s beat is people trying to give God glory together and I evaluate that there are some really great reasons for that. undergo you ever liked a movie so much you wanted to see it again with someone? I evaluate it’s sorta the same thing we experience God and we want everyone there to undergo Him with us together at the same measure. The reality however usually turns out a little less pure.
1 why is there a difference between what happens at our dinner table on sunday and what happens in the living room immediately afterwards?What happens at your dinner table on Sunday? Is there focused dialogue about the thoughts behind the evince in scripture the meaning behind the parables the physical and spiritual parallels? What happens in the living room? Love laughter child chasing communion of a third kind?2 why are the most important communal spiritual experiences i have happening at times other than sunday morning? even though i’m sharing those times with some of the people i see at “perform”…
Some see the spiritual experience without the box and spirtual wrapping cover that goes with it. Some require it all wrapped up with a bow to perceive the enable of Jesus as an undergo at all. Some demand the church matrix to accept the groundedness of the beatitudes some prefer unplugged undigested chunks of gospel to process with friends. For some ‘the collective’ assists in “ushering” the presence and/or experience of God.
3 why does the evince church when applied to a specific time or place actually be to change magnitude the authenticity of the experience?
In what way is the authenticity experienced diminshed by calling a gathering measure church? if personal perceptions of the utterance of the evince ‘church’ diminish one’s experience it would be to be more of a press than adjust like. Authenticity is not validated by a word except the Word of God.
Of cover it is not just you. Thank you for encouraging me to think through these for myself. Look send to getting together with your family.
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