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"Episode-139-El-Triunfador" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:24:15

DESCRIPTION: The latest project of Pete Johnson owner of the Tatuaje cigar brand is to not market his newest cigar the El Triunfador. Apparently this new cigar does not exist. It’s currently not found on any price sheets it’s not found on his Web site and basically nobody is supposed to know about it. I guess. So what is known about this unknown cigar? Well it has Nicaraguan binder and filler and a Connecticut broadleaf wrapper similar to the one used for the La Riqueza line. The cigar sports a band that is similar to the Cuban Flor de Rafael Gonzalez label and to give credence to this comparison the cigar has been touted as a resurrected vintage Cuban brand. El Triunfador is made by Pepin Garcia in the Tabacalera Cubana factory in Nicaragua and retails for $9 per cigar. Currently the El Triunfador comes in a lancero vitola only and according to Johnson the blend is unique to this particular shape. If he decides to expand the brand he said he would also change the blend. The El Triunfador measures 7 1/2 inches by 38 ring gauge. The cigar comes in a slide-lid wooden box of 25 cigars and has found its way to retailers shelve since early September. FEATURED LIBATION: Pappy Van Winkle 23-year Family Reserve BourbonWHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AT STOGIE FRESH: Update on the selling of 4 major cigar forums.. Doc announces the second winner: BJ Hernandez from OklahomaSF5 "ONE-OFF" WITH JIM BARRETT: Padrón 1964 AnniversaryDOC'S CIGAR POSTSCRIPT: Avo Limited Edition 2007FEATURED WEB SITES: El Triunfador by Pete Johnson: Shhhhh it's a secret! Cigar Conference West 2009: The Mind of Men podcast: Stogie Fresh TV: Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0 Beta 3Copyright ©2000 - 2008. Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. CigarLive developed by:

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"Of Cigars, Politics, Baseball, and Friends" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:24:02

Recently. I had the rare privilege to meet and talk to Carlos Fuentes. Jr. of Cigar Family and maker of Fuentes cigars which feature Fuentes. Diamond Crown and Opus cigars. He came to meet and greet cigar aficionados in Lubbock during an afternoon stop at the local cigar merchant and to push his charity organization which raises funds for medicine education and baseball parks in Nicaragua. I was enjoying the afternoon talking to one of his sales reps about the cigar business while puffing one of the better Fuentes Churchill's at a table at the store when Carlos (some call him Carlitos because his father is still in the business although "Carlitos" is probably older than I) came and asked if I minded if he sat down at our table. I said no on behalf of the table and even moved the food of a friend of mine to make room for him knowing that the friend would come back and see I'd given his seat away but what are friends for? Carlos sat down and removed his trademark Panama straw hat and began to chat about the Boston Red Sox game on television. So we began talking baseball and he let us know he was a Red Sox fan even though he was from Tampa. Florida. While there is room for growth in all of us restraint is certainly a worthy objective at times since there are some teams I really don't like. Boston being one of them. But as they began saying in the 1960's. "Who am I to judge?" when I'm sitting at the table with Mr. Carlos Fuentes of Cigar Family and Fuentes cigars?I mentioned to him that I had been in Tampa recently and enjoyed the city (it really is a gorgeous city). He asked if I knew that Tampa was home to the cigar (hell no) and I said. "Why no. I didn't know that." Yes he went on and he mentioned the move of tobacco by trade and that cigar makers began the trade there and that they moved to various places including Cuba over the years. Where is your family from to begin with? I asked and he replied Cuba and Nicaragua (of course anyone with a family in the cigar business for more than 10 years will have their roots in pre-Castro Cuba - a truth and not a stereotype). He however was born in Tampa and raised there but he travels quite often to the tobacco plantations in Nicaragua. I asked about his project and he went on for about 10 minutes describing in detail how the money he raises by the $50 purchase of two of his finer cigars has gone to doctors hospitals ball parks and schools in Nicaragua. Baseball is a worthy enterprise. I noted to him and he noted the popularity of the sport in Latin America especially Mexico and Central America including Cuba and the Caribbean islands. We then moved to politics where you learn that many of the cigar manufacturers are hyper-conservative. Their trade and love (and a cigar lover is exactly that) is under assault by the puritanical health nuts in Western nations who are on this quest for the elusive escape from death award. Politically savvy (which is not rare among the makers and retailers of cigars or the magazines which tout them like Cigar Aficionado) he explained why the direction of the election was spelling disaster for the industry in the United States but that we were not alone. Australia his most recent trip overseas has just begun a push to eliminate smoking in virtually every establishment and he even noted some countries in Africa are doing the same. While the pretzel logic of the puritanical health nuts seems to be prevailing people are finding ways to enjoy cigars and he feels as though the industry will survive. The average Joe Sixpack. Plumber or other name you affix will begin to have less of a chance to enjoy them as though go up in price. We talk about cigars then and how they are made. To smoke a cigar is to smoke a product that has been in the making for a minimum of eight years he explained. From seed selection to planting and growing (some tobacco is sun grown and some is shaded for the effect of strength) to aging (this is where health nuts lose their edge cigars are not chemically treated the tobacco is fermented like wine and the smoker rarely inhales) to selecting lots and blending the tobacco into a "stick" with the idea of consistency to warehousing in their molds to removing labeling boxing and shipping - the process is long well-supervised and marketing is very intentional. The topic is so interesting that I noted that Carlos went from passive to passionate at this stage of the conversation. We move back to baseball and I note my friend whose spot I took has wedged himself in between two men at the table now having about 15 people in number (originally meant for three) as people gather to hear the cigar master speak as we sit at his feet and listen. We talked and laughed and I considered a shameless attempt at throwing myself at Carlitos mercy for a job in an industry I love. But groveling and crying while hugging the feet of such a man seemed to me to be in a word.. well less than dignified. But I did consider it for just a fleeting moment. I felt comfortable enough at that point to let him know that being a native Houstonian and an Astros fan. I was now pulling for his home town's team. He nodded approvingly (I could tell he approved) and he reasserted the fact that he liked Boston. Baseball however is his favorite sport. I nodded as well (as if he cared what my favorite sport was). At that point he pulled out his cutter (how you take the cap off a cigar to smoke it) and cut the end of an Opus XX (can you say $30?). He searched for a lighter and about 50 were produced at the table by people who were now enjoying his company as well. Sitting in an afternoon with a group of people you don't know but whom you know as friends. Sitting with a man whose company is kept by people who make money we cannot begin to fathom (I saw the label in his hat - Monticristi came back and googled it.... I won't be wearing Monticrist's) from around the world and yet who can sit and talk with blue collar guys like he can with the upper crust. Sitting with baseball on as a background activity and while smoking a fine cigar. Talking politically without arguing. What more can you ask?

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"Australian Case Study on the Impact of Taxation and Legislation of ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:23:52

"The Australian cigar community faces some of the most stringent government legislation and taxation in the world. It continues to push ahead though despite such intervention. Current American freedoms must be appreciated and fought for for the sake of fellow cigar lovers around the world. The threat posed by anti-smoking groups and government taxation and legislation must not be slept on." Imagine a government tax of US$122 per pound of tobacco. Attendees at events such as Cigar Aficionado’s ‘Big Smoke’ and the IPCPR’s annual trade show can no longer enjoy cigars as smoking is illegal at all indoor venues. Tobacco advertising is banned and manufacturers cannot sponsor corporate community or sporting events. Cigar enthusiasts cannot light up in their favourite cigar shop whilst smoking at some public parks and beaches is banned. This is not an imagined scenario for Australian cigar suppliers retailers and consumers. This is current state of tobacco taxation and anti-tobacco legislation and all involved with premium tobacco have had to deal with such government taxation and legislation for the better part of the last 20 years. TaxationAustralian cigar smokers have paid a premium price for cigars for some time. Australia’s federal tobacco tax is approximately AUD$300 per kilogram or USD$130 per pound. This dollar amount is not static instead rising twice per year in line with inflation. Local consumers have been ‘conditioned’ for many years to the retail price of premium tobacco. Because of this ‘conditioning’ Australian cigar smokers continue to purchase cigars and the taxes have not had a ‘loss of business’ impact. Australian retailers report that some clients may purchase less in terms of volume due to budgetary constraints however as a rule they will spend what they are comfortable with. For the American cigar retailer proposed taxes such as SCHIP may have a ‘loss of business’ impact as American cigar lovers are not prepared for such immediate price hikes. Anti-tobacco LegislationIt can be argued that government intervention through legislation has had and will continue to have the biggest impact on cigar enthusiasts. Australia has taken some hits and has survived but if similar legislation continues to be introduced in the US losses can unfortunately be expected. Australian distributors retailers and consumers would agree that the biggest impact has been the loss of entertainment venues which allow indoor smoking. Indoor smoking bans introduced across Australia in 2007 made no exemptions for cigar lounges or tobacconists. Despite this cigar lovers continue to find pubs or bars which provide sheltered outdoor facilities that comply with new legislation. Australia’s predominantly temperate climate generally allows for year-round outdoor smoking – something not true of some parts of North America. The FutureDespite the impact of legislation and taxation the Australian cigar industry is looking forward. Cigar events continue to be well-attended doing much to improve the humble cigar’s public perception. Preparedness is however still a strong requirement for those commercially involved with cigars. Established retailers continue to prosper but new retailers without a loyal customer base may struggle to be viable. Those retailers that remain are innovative and maintain the highest of customer service standards. The Australian cigar community faces some of the most stringent government legislation and taxation in the world. It continues to push ahead though despite such intervention. Current American freedoms must be appreciated and fought for for the sake of fellow cigar lovers around the world. The threat posed by anti-smoking groups and government taxation and legislation must not be slept on. Samuel Spurr is Australia’s premier cigar writer contributing to European Cigar Cult Journal and a number of cigar industry publications. His blog. Inlumino Cigar News Australia keeps Aussie cigar smokers up to date with news events and reviews.

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"Re: Do retailers cause Fuente Cigars to sit" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-25 01:26:58

Welcome to the CigarFamily com -- Official Site of the Arturo Fuente and J. C. Newman Cigar Family. If this is your first visit be sure to analyse out the by clicking the link above. You may have to before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8Copyright ©2000 - 2008. Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd vBulletin customized by:

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"The Right Way... And The Wrong Way... To 'Close' Your Prospects" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 15:03:36

The store was having a little get together for their customers which basically means they had one of the manufacturers reps there and they featured a discount on that brand of cigars for anyone making a acquire that particular evening. I hadn't seen this guy in a desire time -- we used to do a lot of business together years ago -- and even though he's a lawyer it was still nice to get together with him again. Anyway when I walked into the store. I was immediately given a ticket for the evening's drawing and then straight away into the sales pitch. It went something like this: "If you buy La Gloria Cubana cigars you get one remove and then you'll get another book for the drawing... But if you buy a box you get 10% off and then you'll also get a discount on your next purchase plus you'll get 8 or 9 coupons extra depending on what box you buy... The free cigar isn't available here you get it from the girl behind the counter over there when you pay.. now if you buy one of these 3 boxes over here you get 9 coupons and a..." Ay. yai. yai! At this inform. I told the guy he needed to make things simpler for me that he was giving me an information fill. And see sometimes that's exactly what happens when you give your prospects too many choices to choose from instead of for example offering them "This" or "That". Period. Because when your prospects change state overloaded with more information than they need you know what happens? Exactly -- they get put off and then go up doing nothing. So whenever your closing remember to alter it short... And sweet. Now go change something. Craig Garber P. S. Check out all the prior archives you've been missing right here at: If you be to know how to consistently draw a steady stream of fresh new prospects who are pre-qualified eager and excited about buying from you then Craig Garber -- recognized by his peers as America's Top Direct-Response Copywriter -- can show you exactly how to do this step-by-step. Garber's written winning promotions across a HUGE variety of industries and you can see them all for yourself on his website at

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"Oliva Serie V Vitolas?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 16:26:28

I noticed on the Oliva place and a few other retailers that they have 2 maduro vitolas for the Serie V. Anyone experience when they are going to be available or where I can get some now? I consume in moderation. Only one cigar at a measure." - attach Twain __________________"Never trust a Gorilla offering to send you anything..." Location: Woodbridge. VA.. by way of South Louisiana I use my cigar consume as an idiot repellant. - Mr. hit I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a measure." - Mark Twain Dunno you changed the affix after I posted... Just trying to back up. __________________"Never believe a Gorilla offering to displace you anything..." I changed the affix but it always said 'maduros'. I just made it in italics and bold. I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a time." - Mark Twain I'm waiting to get my hands on those lanceros. Haven't heard anything about maduros. Serious Cigars has the maduros listed on their website but 0 quanity available which leads me to accept desire many here they too are waiting for their shipment. One can always telecommunicate them and ask. I contacted them measure month asking when the V would hit their website and their response was dead on the target with mid August to late August just no maduros yet. I emailed Serious Cigars and they came approve with 'soon'. They are thinking 4 weeks or so. I consume in moderation. Only one cigar at a measure." - attach Twain These just came into my local B&M (Up In consume) but they are not for channel until Sept. 12th during an event they have scheduled there. I beleive these were going to be Sun Grown but I could be do by. __________________Unbreakable toys are made to end other toys Copyright © TOP 25 CIGAR & CLUB STOGIE. COM All rights reserved Winnipeg. Manitoba. Canada

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"Oliva Serie V Vitolas?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 16:26:26

I noticed on the Oliva site and a few other retailers that they have 2 maduro vitolas for the Serie V. Anyone experience when they are going to be available or where I can get some now? I consume in moderation. Only one cigar at a time." - attach Twain __________________"Never believe a Gorilla offering to displace you anything..." Location: Woodbridge. VA.. by way of South Louisiana I use my cigar smoke as an idiot repellant. - Mr. hit I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a measure." - attach Twain Dunno you changed the affix after I posted... Just trying to back up. __________________"Never believe a Gorilla offering to send you anything..." I changed the affix but it always said 'maduros'. I just made it in italics and bold. I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a measure." - Mark Twain I'm waiting to get my hands on those lanceros. Haven't heard anything about maduros. Serious Cigars has the maduros listed on their website but 0 quanity available which leads me to believe like many here they too are waiting for their shipment. One can always e-mail them and ask. I contacted them measure month asking when the V would hit their website and their response was dead on the target with mid August to late August just no maduros yet. I emailed Serious Cigars and they came approve with 'soon'. They are thinking 4 weeks or so. I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a time." - attach Twain These just came into my local B&M (Up In Smoke) but they are not for channel until Sept. 12th during an event they undergo scheduled there. I beleive these were going to be Sun Grown but I could be do by. __________________Unbreakable toys are made to break other toys Copyright © TOP 25 CIGAR & CLUB STOGIE. COM All rights reserved Winnipeg. Manitoba. Canada

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