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The internal 12v battery in my inverter/power pack is shot and I'm replacing its battery with an external auto/marine 12 lead-acid battery. I need a 12v feed that turns off when engine is not running (just like 12v cigar lighter) to charge this second battery that is part of an inverter / powerpack. I will locate the inverter / powerpack case (it's a Xantrex 400+) and the 12v auto/marine battery (its replacement battery) under the hood and I will charge this battery using the powerpacks own internal control system by feeding the 12v source into the powerpack via its cigar lighter charging port. That way it will shut off when the battery is charged and give a readout of the charge status. I'm asking where is the best place to get the 12v from that has the umph to charge the powerpack best. Is there a 12v tap I can take straight from the alternator that is isolated from draining the LC's own battery? If not where is the best take-off? I just don't want to do anything that will drain the main battery as the whole point of this is for power backup in the deep Mojave desert. Cheers,Mike Stevens. Palm Desert. California '97 FJZ80 "Collector's Edition" Black 132K miles with 3 hub caps The internal 12v battery in my inverter/power pack is shot and I'm replacing its battery with an external auto/marine 12 lead-acid battery. I need a 12v feed that turns off when engine is not running (just like 12v cigar lighter) to charge this second battery that is part of an inverter / powerpack. I will locate the inverter / powerpack case (it's a Xantrex 400+) and the 12v auto/marine battery (its replacement battery) under the hood and I will charge this battery using the powerpacks own internal control system by feeding the 12v source into the powerpack via its cigar lighter charging port. That way it will shut off when the battery is charged and give a readout of the charge status. I'm asking where is the best place to get the 12v from that has the umph to charge the powerpack best. Is there a 12v tap I can take straight from the alternator that is isolated from draining the LC's own battery? If not where is the best take-off? I just don't want to do anything that will drain the main battery as the whole point of this is for power backup in the deep Mojave desert. Just put a complete dual battery kit in and do it right. Wrangler NW Power sells a complete one that comes with the Slee washer bottle relo kit. Kirk D 4 sale My 94' FZJ80 Factory Locked 251k. Nitto 285/75/16. CDL switch. Diff breather extensions. LandTank (Thanks) Modified Blue Hub. CB aftermarket temp gauge. 14" Aux fan. Slee Harness's. Alpine in-dash DVD. 5.1 decoder. Of course I have been considering that but I'm so busy right now. I can't find a LC kit at WranglerNW - serched their site. You have a link?Tell me what are the negatives (sic) about just having a second battery in parallel? Cheers,Mike Stevens. Palm Desert. California '97 FJZ80 "Collector's Edition" Black 132K miles with 3 hub caps

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The internal 12v battery in my inverter/power pack is shot and I'm replacing its battery with an external auto/marine 12 lead-acid battery. I need a 12v feed that turns off when engine is not running (just like 12v cigar lighter) to charge this second battery that is part of an inverter / powerpack. I will locate the inverter / powerpack case (it's a Xantrex 400+) and the 12v auto/marine battery (its replacement battery) under the hood and I will charge this battery using the powerpacks own internal control system by feeding the 12v source into the powerpack via its cigar lighter charging port. That way it will shut off when the battery is charged and give a readout of the charge status. I'm asking where is the best place to get the 12v from that has the umph to charge the powerpack best. Is there a 12v tap I can take straight from the alternator that is isolated from draining the LC's own battery? If not where is the best take-off? I just don't want to do anything that will drain the main battery as the whole point of this is for power backup in the deep Mojave desert. Cheers,Mike Stevens. Palm Desert. California '97 FJZ80 "Collector's Edition" Black 132K miles with 3 hub caps The internal 12v battery in my inverter/power pack is shot and I'm replacing its battery with an external auto/marine 12 lead-acid battery. I need a 12v feed that turns off when engine is not running (just like 12v cigar lighter) to charge this second battery that is part of an inverter / powerpack. I will locate the inverter / powerpack case (it's a Xantrex 400+) and the 12v auto/marine battery (its replacement battery) under the hood and I will charge this battery using the powerpacks own internal control system by feeding the 12v source into the powerpack via its cigar lighter charging port. That way it will shut off when the battery is charged and give a readout of the charge status. I'm asking where is the best place to get the 12v from that has the umph to charge the powerpack best. Is there a 12v tap I can take straight from the alternator that is isolated from draining the LC's own battery? If not where is the best take-off? I just don't want to do anything that will drain the main battery as the whole point of this is for power backup in the deep Mojave desert. Just put a complete dual battery kit in and do it right. Wrangler NW Power sells a complete one that comes with the Slee washer bottle relo kit. Kirk D 4 sale My 94' FZJ80 Factory Locked 251k. Nitto 285/75/16. CDL switch. Diff breather extensions. LandTank (Thanks) Modified Blue Hub. CB aftermarket temp gauge. 14" Aux fan. Slee Harness's. Alpine in-dash DVD. 5.1 decoder. Of course I have been considering that but I'm so busy right now. I can't find a LC kit at WranglerNW - serched their site. You have a link?Tell me what are the negatives (sic) about just having a second battery in parallel? Cheers,Mike Stevens. Palm Desert. California '97 FJZ80 "Collector's Edition" Black 132K miles with 3 hub caps

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The internal 12v battery in my inverter/power pack is shot and I'm replacing its battery with an external auto/marine 12 lead-acid battery. I need a 12v feed that turns off when engine is not running (just like 12v cigar lighter) to charge this second battery that is part of an inverter / powerpack. I will locate the inverter / powerpack case (it's a Xantrex 400+) and the 12v auto/marine battery (its replacement battery) under the hood and I will charge this battery using the powerpacks own internal control system by feeding the 12v source into the powerpack via its cigar lighter charging port. That way it will shut off when the battery is charged and give a readout of the charge status. I'm asking where is the best place to get the 12v from that has the umph to charge the powerpack best. Is there a 12v tap I can take straight from the alternator that is isolated from draining the LC's own battery? If not where is the best take-off? I just don't want to do anything that will drain the main battery as the whole point of this is for power backup in the deep Mojave desert. Cheers,Mike Stevens. Palm Desert. California '97 FJZ80 "Collector's Edition" Black 132K miles with 3 hub caps The internal 12v battery in my inverter/power pack is shot and I'm replacing its battery with an external auto/marine 12 lead-acid battery. I need a 12v feed that turns off when engine is not running (just like 12v cigar lighter) to charge this second battery that is part of an inverter / powerpack. I will locate the inverter / powerpack case (it's a Xantrex 400+) and the 12v auto/marine battery (its replacement battery) under the hood and I will charge this battery using the powerpacks own internal control system by feeding the 12v source into the powerpack via its cigar lighter charging port. That way it will shut off when the battery is charged and give a readout of the charge status. I'm asking where is the best place to get the 12v from that has the umph to charge the powerpack best. Is there a 12v tap I can take straight from the alternator that is isolated from draining the LC's own battery? If not where is the best take-off? I just don't want to do anything that will drain the main battery as the whole point of this is for power backup in the deep Mojave desert. Just put a complete dual battery kit in and do it right. Wrangler NW Power sells a complete one that comes with the Slee washer bottle relo kit. Kirk D 4 sale My 94' FZJ80 Factory Locked 251k. Nitto 285/75/16. CDL switch. Diff breather extensions. LandTank (Thanks) Modified Blue Hub. CB aftermarket temp gauge. 14" Aux fan. Slee Harness's. Alpine in-dash DVD. 5.1 decoder. Of course I have been considering that but I'm so busy right now. I can't find a LC kit at WranglerNW - serched their site. You have a link?Tell me what are the negatives (sic) about just having a second battery in parallel? Cheers,Mike Stevens. Palm Desert. California '97 FJZ80 "Collector's Edition" Black 132K miles with 3 hub caps

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). On * average the noscript tag is called from less than 1% of internet * users. */--> (2003 - Current) In 2003 the Z4 replaced the Z3. Meaner edgier and no longer a car born of spare parts the Z4 took to the challenge of replacing the popular Z3 seriously. The shark like design multi link rear suspension and improved power makes the Z4 the new roadster to beat. In 2006 a coupe design was also introduced. I was just told by a BMW center service department that the cigarette lighter on the Z4 isn't supposed to be used to power anything and that there is *no* auxilary power on the Z4. I was having an issue with my new Z4's cigarette lighter power working only intermittently. This seems very strange to me. How do people wire up their radar detectors cell phone chargers etc? 06 model has no such issue. I use it regularly for feeding my iPod or charge cell phone. I didn't notice any problem using it for vacuum cleaner or inflator. I undergo also 12 to 120V converter to power AC chargers. I've noticed some posts about weakness of battery of 07 Z4 so probably it is a reason to limit a usage of lighter. My TomTom 910 GPS in my '04 Z4 would lose power occasionally and I'd have to fiddle with the close to get it working. I didn't have this problem in any other car but it wasn't enough of an issue for me to bring it to the dealer. How often do you lose power? I too have trouble powering my Garmin Nuvi 680 with the cigarette lighter. I have to wiggle it around before it "connects" properly and then if I jar the adapter just a little it loses it's connection. Has anyone tried the Z4 Power Socket Relocation kit from LeatherZ? It's designed to give you your lighter back if you lay their end Guage Kit. It is supposedly plug and compete and replaces the blank plate over the ashtray. I wonder if it accepts adapters more readily than the stock cigarette lighter. I would image you could either re-direct the power from the original lighter to the LeatherZ one or split the power in two for two outlets. Don't some European cars have a slightly larger power socket? I remember my old original Escort (the Mike Valentine one) came with a sleeve to make the power plug slightly larger diameter. I had to use it in my '80 Audi 5000 to keep the the Escort's plug from popping out. It sounds like the diameter of the lighter receptacle may be slightly larger on your cars then what's commonly used here in the US. It would probably be easy to replace the receptacle which would resolve any future electronic issues. If you can't take the time to teach a kid something good someone will take the measure to teach them something bad. I have an 06 create Z4 Coupe here in the UK and have to accept that the 12v socket is a very poor fit. I've had other BMW models and two MINIs but this is the first issue I've had in this area.... Well I'm not able to get *any* power from it. When I first got the car. I went driving for a number of hours with my GPS plugged into the cigarette lighter outlet. It worked.. for about an hour. It then stopped working after that. A few days ago it worked again.. for about 30 minutes. Now that I read over these replies and talked to the BMW service center. I tried wiggling it and all sorts of different positioning.. without any hint of power whatsoever. I tried it so much that I seriously doubt it can be resolved by just wiggling and I tried many different devices without any of them working. So.. does anyone know what the icon in the fuse diagram looks like for the cigarette lighter? Replacing that sounds like the next best thing to try but I can't evaluate out which fuse(s) to replace- the icons are too cryptic in the fuse box diagram. So.. does anyone know what the icon in the fuse diagram looks like for the cigarette lighter? Replacing that sounds like the next best thing to try but I can't figure out which fuse(s) to replace- the icons are too cryptic in the fuse box diagram. I blew the lighter fuse when I was tapping into it to wire up my diy homelink module. IIRC it was fuse #5 @15A but don't quote me on it. I replaced my ashtray with the iPod adapter. In doing so the kit came with a cigarette lighter assembly and it works perfect plus I get to play my iPod. I replaced my ashtray with the iPod adapter. In doing so the kit came with a cigarette lighter assembly and it works ameliorate plus I get to play my iPod. I blew the lighter fuse when I was tapping into it to wire up my diy homelink module. IIRC it was fuse #5 @15A but don't quote me on it. Number 5 fuse @ 15A is change by reversal. I had plugged in one of those multi outlet adapters into the lighter and blew the fuse. Don't know why as I didn't have anything plugged into the adapter. I undergo used the lighter to power my Garmin but as some have said the connection can be iffy. I have had the unit lose power and then come approve. Sometimes I have had to jiggle and twist the connection to restore power. However when I went to Homecoming. I had the Garmin plugged in the whole time and never had a power problem. Must have had it plugged in just right. The European and US 12volt cigarette lighter socket specs are slightly different.. construe about it on Wiki. But yeah if you wiggle it it usually works.. depends on the shape of the power adapter. My Monster plug always works while my Nokia OEM charger plug never does. Ironic the Z4 is made in the US and sold more in the US than anywhere else but it has the Euro spec plug while most other bimmers do not. So wait does the iPod OEM kit come with what? Number 5 fuse @ 15A is correct. I had plugged in one of those multi outlet adapters into the lighter and blew the fuse. Don't experience why as I didn't have anything plugged into the adapter. I have used the lighter to power my Garmin but as some have said the connection can be iffy. I have had the unit lose power and then come back. Sometimes I have had to jiggle and twist the connection to restore power. However when I went to Homecoming. I had the Garmin plugged in the whole time and never had a power problem. Must have had it plugged in just right. FWIW. I undergo been thinking of installing 1 or 2 powerlet sockets on the trim panel below the climate controls/above the ashtray. The connection is much more secure than relying on the cigarette socket has a Powerlet adapter cable for the Garmin Nuvis. Their PPC-015-36 adapter cable puts the voltage converter inline in the cable making it a much more compact and secure electrical setup and than relying on the bulky Garmin power adapter. I had the same problem of blowing the fuse when I tried to use a multi-outlet adapter alone with no power draws. This was on a brand-new car less than an hour old. Seems to me that a 15 amp circuit should be sufficient. Perhaps the design of the outlet socket itself needs revision. For us perhaps the fix might be adapting an aftermarket socket to fit. Anyone tried this? The first day I got my car when I plugged in my V1 I had to fidget with the plug turning it re-plugging etc to get it to work. After that it worked fine but sometimes it would act up and be off change surface when it was all the way in. I just purchased my Z4 and I have the same problem with my Garmin. Being and Electrical Engineer I had to find out why the lighter socket did not work. The problem appears to be two things. One is the lighter socket is much more shallow than the lighter socket on my other American made cars so that most plugs will not be in the socket tightly and two the ceramic insulator in the bottom of the lighter socket (the +12V terminal of the socket is mounted in the grove of this insulator) is elevated higher than the isnsulator on my other cars. This prevents the plug from making contact with the +12V terminal of the socket. To solve my problem I used a "Y" splitter cable. The plug on the Splitter telecommunicate fits into the lighter socket and I plug my Garmin close into one of the legs. This works fine for me and it is a cheap and easy fix. You can get a "Y" splitter at any auto parts store or Radio Shack.

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My cigarette lighter fuse is a 15 amp keeps blowing when I plug in cell phone charger. ordain using a 20 amp be a problem? Never do that. It is a safety issue. Most likely the telecommunicate may overheat and catch fire. __________________03 E320 - blue (wife has it)99 CLK320 - black opal (sold it)99 ML320 - color (sold it)95 C280 - black (mine) I would guess there is something wrong with your cell charger.. or a bunco in the lighter itself.. never put a higher rated fuse in any socket.. could lead to fire as Zap said. __________________2000 C230 Kompressor -- Travertine Beige Metallic-- 69,000 miles1991 300CE -- Blue color Metallic -- 129,000 miles -- Sold 5/4/071981 300SD -- Classic color -- 190,000 miles -- Sold 7/9/061977 240D -- Over 300k miles (Wrecked) -- My 1st car2007 Moomba Outback LSV -- 40 Hours2005 Silverado LT Z71 -- Gunmetal Metallic -- 40,000 miles Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

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My cigarette lighter fuse is a 15 amp keeps blowing when I close in cell telecommunicate charger. Will using a 20 amp be a problem? Never do that. It is a safety air. Most likely the cable may overheat and catch fire. __________________03 E320 - blue (wife has it)99 CLK320 - black opal (sold it)99 ML320 - color (sold it)95 C280 - black (exploit) I would guess there is something wrong with your cell charger.. or a short in the lighter itself.. never put a higher rated fuse in any socket.. could bring about to blast as Zap said. __________________2000 C230 Kompressor -- Travertine Beige Metallic-- 69,000 miles1991 300CE -- Blue Black Metallic -- 129,000 miles -- Sold 5/4/071981 300SD -- Classic White -- 190,000 miles -- Sold 7/9/061977 240D -- Over 300k miles (Wrecked) -- My 1st car2007 Moomba Outback LSV -- 40 Hours2005 Silverado LT Z71 -- Gunmetal Metallic -- 40,000 miles Currently Active Users Viewing This go: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

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My cigarette lighter fuse is a 15 amp keeps blowing when I plug in cell phone charger. Will using a 20 amp be a problem? Never do that. It is a safety issue. Most likely the cable may overheat and surprise blast. __________________03 E320 - blue (wife has it)99 CLK320 - color opal (sold it)99 ML320 - green (sold it)95 C280 - color (exploit) I would guess there is something wrong with your cell charger.. or a short in the lighter itself.. never put a higher rated change integrity in any socket.. could lead to fire as Zap said. __________________2000 C230 Kompressor -- Travertine Beige Metallic-- 69,000 miles1991 300CE -- color Black Metallic -- 129,000 miles -- Sold 5/4/071981 300SD -- Classic color -- 190,000 miles -- Sold 7/9/061977 240D -- Over 300k miles (Wrecked) -- My 1st car2007 Moomba Outback LSV -- 40 Hours2005 Silverado LT Z71 -- Gunmetal Metallic -- 40,000 miles Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

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