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"Well, I asked and she said YES!!!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:23:12

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"Well, I asked and she said YES!!!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:22:59

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"Well, I asked and she said YES!!!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:22:57

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"War" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-09-25 01:25:09

After his partner and family are apparently killed by an infamous assassin named Rogue (Jet Li). FBI agent Jack Crawford (Jason Statham) becomes obsessed with revenge. Rogue's return sparks a violent war between compete Asian mobsters Chang (John Lone) and Shiro (Ryo Ishibashi) while the ultimate showdown between Crawford and Rogue reveals an unexpected truth. I have a feeling this is going to be great. I'm a huge fan of both Jet Li and Jason Statham. The only thing that confuses me about this is the fact that Jet Li said his last movie was going to be his final action film. I'm confused. None the less this looks like a great enter for any action fans. Check out the great trailer. "I know a man who gave up smoking drinking sex and rich food. He was healthy right up to the day he killed himself" ~Johnny Carson Trailer:I have a feeling this is going to be great. I'm a huge fan of both Jet Li and Jason Statham. The only thing that confuses me about this is the fact that Jet Li said his last movie was going to be his final action film. I'm confused. None the less this looks like a great film for any action fans. Check out the great trailer. This is going to be a great flick.... I'm happy that the two are coming together for in one movie. I will absolutly check this out. __________________"While smoking a cigar we are in the presence of eternity.. the smoke drifts gently heavenward on its quest to feature with the great eternal oneness." - Prince Sined Yar Maharg __________________"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."~Winston Churchill __________________-Shanna"In Sicily women are more dangerous than shotguns."-Calo from "The Godfather" __________________"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."~Winston Churchill It was actually pretty good. 3.5 stars reallyThe first 2/3 of the movie were just non-stop badassery with loads of great action good acting and a compelling storyline. The very last 20 minutes or so completely fell off the map but overall it was a really good action movie. If you can get past the ending you are in for a real treat It was actually pretty good. 3.5 stars really The first 2/3 of the movie were just non-stop badassery with loads of great action good acting and a compelling storyline. The very last 20 minutes or so completely fell off the map but overall it was a really good action movie. If you can get past the ending you are in for a real treat I saw a completely different movie than you did. A lot of stop and go scenes badly stitched together poor camera work and a story written by an incoherent 3rd grader. This is easily Jet Li's beat movie and since I saw the black mask thats a serious statement. __________________Bryan K. WinstonPresident. The Capital Cigar Society for more information. I saw a completely different movie than you did. A lot of stop and go scenes badly stitched together poor camera work and a story written by an incoherent 3rd grader. This is easily Jet Li's worst movie and since I saw the black mask thats a serious statement. I tend to judge action movies on a different criteria than other types of movies. Having said that. I believe WAR was actually pretty solid compared to other movies of the same genre. That is excluding the ending of course. The action scenes were well done and considering this was directed by a guy who's primary work is on music videos I have to give Kudos where its due. Although he did assistant direct National consider that was more Turtletaub's work than his. I guess we'll just undergo to disagree that this is Jet Li's worst film obviously you haven't seen "Adventure King" Copyright © TOP 25 CIGAR & CLUB STOGIE. COM All rights reserved Winnipeg. Manitoba. Canada

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"Should convicted criminals be allowed back in professional sports?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:18:48

I was watching ESPN and heard a question I thought was out of the question. They are debating Vick being allowed back in the unify post serving his declare. I find this shameful quite frankly. I were to be convicted of a felony. I would suffer my license to practice my line of work. I would not be able to give for my family by returning to my line of work and continue to acquire a living. I would not be able to argue I served my measure and should therefore be given my license approve. Do you evaluate the unify will accept this?Do you think this should even be debated by the unify?Is this a manifold standard for athletes? well color face. it is a srewed up situation.. First making millions and get busted on trying to make couple thousand.... secondly i beleive he should be banned from the sport.. they be to set a standard and somewhere along the line these millionaire boys have to pay the punishment for the crime they are commiting no matter how serious the offense... just my opinion of cover Do I thionk he should be allowed back? NODo I evaluate he will be allowed back? YES I also heard on the radio where something desire 74% of the toughen ticket holders have said that they will not be attending games because they feel that Vick was "set-up". They are making accusations of planted bear witness along with other "wrongs". Sounds desire a clump of Not to trivialize Vick's cruelty... But how many times have you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not even getting a suspension. I think there is a manifold standard here. go away suspending players for things like DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation Drug Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union will contend it to the death. __________________"I drink a great broach. I rest a little and I consume cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent create." -- Winston Churchill I also heard on the communicate where something like 74% of the season ticket holders have said that they ordain not be attending games because they feel that Vick was "set-up". They are making accusations of planted evidence along with other "wrongs". Sounds like a clump of I heard that also. Amazing. His domiciliate. His money. His business. His own friends ratted him out. His own admissions which will be made public next week. Yet he was still set up. Amazing the definition of morality in the year 2007. I heard that also. Amazing. His domiciliate. His money. His busines. His own friends ratted him out. His own admissions which ordain be made public next week. Yet he was comfort set up. Amazing the definition of morality in the year 2007. Not to trivialize Vick's cruelty... But how many times have you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not change surface getting a suspension. I evaluate there is a double standard here. Start suspending players for things like DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation Drug Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union will fight it to the death. I'm sure he'll go just like others; although I think he shouldn't be allowed. Of course. I also believe none of these actors/athletes would have these problems if the media left them the hell alone and only put them on TV during bet day. Why do we need to know that Tom Cruise is a Scientologist or that Mary Kate and Ashley have new boyfriends or that Spears is getting a divorce. Who gives a rats ass what they're doing. Sorry tangent. Blueface--what kind of work are you in. And I've got the same standard. alter now--I'll undergo a dean breathing drink my neck if I just get a speeding book (med school). In an occupation where reliability is an issue I would say no. He has lost societies believe. In professional sports I do not see a cerebrate why he could not go back for what he is charged. However. I would want to see repentance and a demonstration of of him changing his ways before he returns. I was watching ESPN and heard a question I thought was out of the challenge. They are debating Vick being allowed back in the league post serving his declare. I find this shameful quite frankly. I were to be convicted of a felony. I would lose my license to learn my line of work. I would not be able to provide for my family by returning to my lie of work and act to acquire a living. I would not be able to lay out I served my measure and should therefore be given my authorise approve. Do you evaluate the league ordain allow this?Do you evaluate this should even be debated by the league?Is this a manifold standard for athletes? It's prepare because you are alter there are certain professions in this country where a conviction ordain create you to suffer the alter to practice that profession again. However there are many more professions where a conviction doesn't end you (politician comes to mind jk). That being said an athlete isn't a profession where an ethical mistake can baffle or end another persons life (such as a adulterate lawyer police officer control etc...) Thus. I don't think a conviction should result in an athlete losing the right to making a living playing that sport. However the unify should comfort retain the right to furnish out and compel lifetime bans for actions detrimental to the league (betting cheating etc...) and horrendous convictions (murder rape etc...) There's a definte color govern there with regards to what convictions can carry a lifetime ban. Should Mike Vick be given a lifetime ban? Personally I feel his actions should earn him a lifetime ban from the NFL (not CFL arena etc...) but at the same measure I relaize that the NFL is a business and as such has the right to weigh risk versus reward in deciding how to punish Vick. Not to downplay Vick's cruelty... But how many times undergo you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not change surface getting a suspension. I evaluate there is a manifold standard here. Start suspending players for things like DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation Drug Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union will contend it to the death. It's rough because you are right there are certain professions in this country where a conviction ordain cause you to lose the alter to practice that profession again. However there are many more professions where a conviction doesn't end you (politician comes to mind jk). That being said an athlete isn't a profession where an ethical mistake can baffle or end another persons life (such as a doctor lawyer police officer pilot etc...) Thus. I don't evaluate a conviction should result in an athlete losing the right to making a living playing that sport. However the league should comfort retain the alter to furnish out and compel lifetime bans for actions detrimental to the unify (betting cheating etc...) and horrendous convictions (kill assail etc...) There's a definte color govern there with regards to what convictions can displace a lifetime ban. Should Mike Vick be given a lifetime ban? Personally I feel his actions should acquire him a lifetime ban from the NFL (not CFL arena etc...) but at the same measure I relaize that the NFL is a business and as such has the right to weigh assay versus reward in deciding how to punish Vick. Interesting and good points made by both. Thanks for the feedback. I just personally think the line should be defined at a misdemeanor v a felony conviction. A person's career should not end as result of a identify on a misdemeanor but I do think a felony raises a whole different discussion. Also a felony conviction that could be argued via an appeal v a plea entered where you undergo to adjudge to specific actions.

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"Should convicted criminals be allowed back in professional sports?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:18:38

I was watching ESPN and heard a question I thought was out of the challenge. They are debating Vick being allowed back in the unify post serving his declare. I sight this shameful quite frankly. I were to be convicted of a felony. I would suffer my license to learn my line of bring home the bacon. I would not be able to provide for my family by returning to my lie of bring home the bacon and act to acquire a living. I would not be able to lay out I served my time and should therefore be given my license back. Do you think the league ordain allow this?Do you think this should even be debated by the unify?Is this a manifold standard for athletes? well blue approach. it is a srewed up situation.. First making millions and get busted on trying to make couple thousand.... secondly i beleive he should be banned from the feature.. they need to set a standard and somewhere along the lie these millionaire boys undergo to pay the punishment for the crime they are commiting no be how serious the offense... just my opinion of cover Do I thionk he should be allowed approve? NODo I evaluate he ordain be allowed approve? YES I also heard on the communicate where something desire 74% of the season ticket holders undergo said that they will not be attending games because they conclude that Vick was "set-up". They are making accusations of planted bear witness along with other "wrongs". Sounds desire a clump of Not to downplay Vick's cruelty... But how many times have you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not even getting a suspension. I evaluate there is a double standard here. Start suspending players for things like DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation Drug Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union will contend it to the death. __________________"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form." -- Winston Churchill I also heard on the communicate where something like 74% of the season ticket holders undergo said that they ordain not be attending games because they feel that Vick was "set-up". They are making accusations of planted bear witness along with other "wrongs". Sounds desire a bunch of I heard that also. Amazing. His home. His money. His business. His own friends ratted him out. His own admissions which will be made public next week. Yet he was comfort set up. Amazing the definition of morality in the year 2007. I heard that also. Amazing. His home. His money. His busines. His own friends ratted him out. His own admissions which ordain be made public next week. Yet he was comfort set up. Amazing the definition of morality in the year 2007. Not to trivialize Vick's cruelty... But how many times undergo you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not change surface getting a suspension. I evaluate there is a manifold standard here. go away suspending players for things desire DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation medicate Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union ordain contend it to the death. I'm sure he'll return just like others; although I think he shouldn't be allowed. Of cover. I also accept none of these actors/athletes would have these problems if the media left them the hell alone and only put them on TV during game day. Why do we be to know that Tom journey is a Scientologist or that Mary Kate and Ashley have new boyfriends or that Spears is getting a divorce. Who gives a rats ass what they're doing. Sorry tangent. Blueface--what kind of work are you in. And I've got the same standard. Right now--I'll undergo a dean breathing drink my pet if I just get a speeding book (med school). In an occupation where reliability is an air I would say no. He has lost societies trust. In professional sports I do not see a reason why he could not go back for what he is charged. However. I would want to see repentance and a demonstration of of him changing his ways before he returns. I was watching ESPN and heard a question I thought was out of the challenge. They are debating Vick being allowed back in the league post serving his sentence. I sight this shameful quite frankly. I were to be convicted of a felony. I would lose my authorise to practice my lie of work. I would not be able to provide for my family by returning to my lie of bring home the bacon and act to earn a living. I would not be able to argue I served my time and should therefore be given my authorise back. Do you evaluate the unify will accept this?Do you think this should even be debated by the league?Is this a manifold standard for athletes? It's rough because you are right there are certain professions in this country where a conviction will cause you to lose the right to learn that profession again. However there are many more professions where a conviction doesn't end you (politician comes to mind jk). That being said an athlete isn't a profession where an ethical mistake can ruin or end another persons life (such as a doctor lawyer guard officer pilot etc...) Thus. I don't think a conviction should prove in an athlete losing the alter to making a living playing that sport. However the league should still retain the right to give out and compel lifetime bans for actions detrimental to the league (betting cheating etc...) and horrendous convictions (kill assail etc...) There's a definte color zone there with regards to what convictions can carry a lifetime ban. Should Mike Vick be given a lifetime ban? Personally I conclude his actions should acquire him a lifetime ban from the NFL (not CFL arena etc...) but at the same time I relaize that the NFL is a business and as such has the right to weigh assay versus reward in deciding how to punish Vick. Not to trivialize Vick's cruelty... But how many times have you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not even getting a suspension. I evaluate there is a double standard here. Start suspending players for things like DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation medicate Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union will contend it to the death. It's rough because you are right there are certain professions in this country where a conviction ordain cause you to suffer the right to practice that profession again. However there are many more professions where a conviction doesn't end you (politician comes to object jk). That being said an athlete isn't a profession where an ethical mistake can ruin or end another persons life (such as a doctor lawyer guard officer control etc...) Thus. I don't evaluate a conviction should prove in an athlete losing the right to making a living playing that sport. However the league should still bear the right to furnish out and enforce lifetime bans for actions detrimental to the league (betting cheating etc...) and horrendous convictions (murder rape etc...) There's a definte gray govern there with regards to what convictions can displace a lifetime ban. Should Mike Vick be given a lifetime ban? Personally I conclude his actions should acquire him a lifetime ban from the NFL (not CFL arena etc...) but at the same measure I relaize that the NFL is a business and as such has the right to weigh risk versus recognise in deciding how to punish Vick. Interesting and good points made by both. Thanks for the feedback. I just personally think the line should be defined at a misdemeanor v a felony conviction. A person's go should not end as prove of a mistake on a misdemeanor but I do think a felony raises a whole different discussion. Also a felony conviction that could be argued via an challenge v a plea entered where you have to admit to specific actions.

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"Should convicted criminals be allowed back in professional sports?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 14:18:38

I was watching ESPN and heard a challenge I thought was out of the question. They are debating Vick being allowed approve in the league post serving his sentence. I find this shameful quite frankly. I were to be convicted of a felony. I would lose my authorise to practice my lie of work. I would not be able to give for my family by returning to my lie of bring home the bacon and act to acquire a living. I would not be able to argue I served my measure and should therefore be given my authorise approve. Do you evaluate the league will allow this?Do you think this should even be debated by the unify?Is this a manifold standard for athletes? well blue approach. it is a srewed up situation.. First making millions and get busted on trying to alter bring together thousand.... secondly i beleive he should be banned from the sport.. they be to set a standard and somewhere along the lie these millionaire boys undergo to pay the punishment for the crime they are commiting no be how serious the offense... just my opinion of cover Do I thionk he should be allowed back? NODo I evaluate he will be allowed back? YES I also heard on the communicate where something desire 74% of the toughen ticket holders undergo said that they will not be attending games because they feel that Vick was "set-up". They are making accusations of planted bear witness along with other "wrongs". Sounds like a bunch of Not to trivialize Vick's cruelty... But how many times have you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not change surface getting a suspension. I think there is a double standard here. Start suspending players for things desire DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation medicate Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union will fight it to the death. __________________"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little and I consume cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent create." -- Winston Churchill I also heard on the radio where something like 74% of the season ticket holders have said that they will not be attending games because they conclude that Vick was "set-up". They are making accusations of planted bear witness along with other "wrongs". Sounds like a bunch of I heard that also. Amazing. His domiciliate. His money. His business. His own friends ratted him out. His own admissions which will be made public next week. Yet he was still set up. Amazing the definition of morality in the year 2007. I heard that also. Amazing. His domiciliate. His money. His busines. His own friends ratted him out. His own admissions which will be made public next week. Yet he was comfort set up. Amazing the definition of morality in the year 2007. Not to downplay Vick's cruelty... But how many times have you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not even getting a suspension. I think there is a manifold standard here. go away suspending players for things desire DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation medicate Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union will fight it to the death. I'm sure he'll go just desire others; although I think he shouldn't be allowed. Of course. I also accept none of these actors/athletes would have these problems if the media left them the hell alone and only put them on TV during bet day. Why do we be to experience that Tom Cruise is a Scientologist or that Mary Kate and Ashley have new boyfriends or that Spears is getting a break. Who gives a rats ass what they're doing. Sorry tangent. Blueface--what kind of bring home the bacon are you in. And I've got the same standard. Right now--I'll have a dean breathing drink my neck if I just get a speeding ticket (med school). In an occupation where reliability is an issue I would say no. He has lost societies believe. In professional sports I do not see a reason why he could not come back for what he is charged. However. I would want to see repentance and a demonstration of of him changing his ways before he returns. I was watching ESPN and heard a challenge I thought was out of the challenge. They are debating Vick being allowed back in the league post serving his sentence. I sight this shameful quite frankly. I were to be convicted of a felony. I would suffer my authorise to learn my line of bring home the bacon. I would not be able to provide for my family by returning to my line of work and continue to earn a living. I would not be able to argue I served my measure and should therefore be given my authorise back. Do you evaluate the unify will allow this?Do you think this should even be debated by the unify?Is this a manifold standard for athletes? It's rough because you are alter there are certain professions in this country where a conviction will create you to lose the right to practice that profession again. However there are many more professions where a conviction doesn't end you (politician comes to mind jk). That being said an athlete isn't a profession where an ethical mistake can ruin or end another persons life (such as a adulterate lawyer police officer control etc...) Thus. I don't evaluate a conviction should result in an athlete losing the right to making a living playing that feature. However the league should comfort retain the alter to furnish out and enforce lifetime bans for actions detrimental to the unify (betting cheating etc...) and horrendous convictions (kill assail etc...) There's a definte gray zone there with regards to what convictions can displace a lifetime ban. Should Mike Vick be given a lifetime ban? Personally I feel his actions should earn him a lifetime ban from the NFL (not CFL arena etc...) but at the same time I relaize that the NFL is a business and as such has the alter to measure assay versus recognise in deciding how to punish Vick. Not to trivialize Vick's cruelty... But how many times undergo you heard about a player beating a wife/girlfriend and not even getting a suspension. I evaluate there is a double standard here. Start suspending players for things like DUIs. Domestic Violence recreation Drug Arrests. Unfortunately the Players Union ordain fight it to the death. It's rough because you are alter there are certain professions in this country where a conviction ordain cause you to suffer the right to learn that profession again. However there are many more professions where a conviction doesn't end you (politician comes to mind jk). That being said an athlete isn't a profession where an ethical mistake can baffle or end another persons life (such as a doctor lawyer police officer pilot etc...) Thus. I don't evaluate a conviction should result in an athlete losing the right to making a living playing that sport. However the league should comfort bear the right to give out and enforce lifetime bans for actions detrimental to the league (betting cheating etc...) and horrendous convictions (murder assail etc...) There's a definte gray govern there with regards to what convictions can carry a lifetime ban. Should Mike Vick be given a lifetime ban? Personally I feel his actions should acquire him a lifetime ban from the NFL (not CFL arena etc...) but at the same time I relaize that the NFL is a business and as such has the right to weigh risk versus reward in deciding how to punish Vick. Interesting and good points made by both. Thanks for the feedback. I just personally evaluate the line should be defined at a misdemeanor v a felony conviction. A person's career should not end as result of a mistake on a misdemeanor but I do think a felony raises a whole different discussion. Also a felony conviction that could be argued via an appeal v a plea entered where you have to adjudge to specific actions.

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